Ray and Debi welcome Jesse Harvey Founder of the Church of the Safe Injection. Ray took exception to an OP-Ed the Jesse wrote for the Portland Press Herald and said so. Jesse explains his philosophy and mindset on starting this organization. He believes in harm reduction. They discuss the problem Ray has with Jesse’s philosophy. Jesse talks about the Good Samaritan in the Bible. Ray gives the differences between the Good Samaritan and Jesus. Ray asks Jesse if he supports the legalization and regulation of drugs. This was a great conversation. This is a long segment and we blew off the breaks because this was a very important discussion.