Part 1:  Ray and Joe are joined by Gordon Smith and Peter Bolduc. Governor Janet Mills recently named Executive Vice President of the Maine Medical Association, Gordon Smith, as the first Director of Opioid Response. He gives a short bio of his credentials. Ray asks him about the new committee/task force. Gordon tells us what is already in place and what are some of the steps he would like to see. Joe and Gordon talk about Narcan and needle exchanges.
Part 2:  Ray is excited about the prospects that Gordon might be able to implement and the fact that it is a multi-pronged approach. Gordon explains that his only answers to the Governor, all of the other departments answer to him. They talk about how the intervention needs to start early and continue all through life. Drugs affect everyone, even the unborn. Ray asks Peter Bolduc what he has been doing to help combat this problem. Peter wants to know what happens when someone becomes “clean”, where do they go for more support. Gordon states that there is a lot of data, but now we are going to start to used this data. Ray asks Joe what he sees in pharmacies. He talks about the pharmacy “club” where people are sharing prescription drug. Joe is a huge fan of the Kentucky model and he explains what it is.
Part 3:  Gordon had to leave for a meeting, but the discussion continues. Joe states that it is really exciting that Gordon seems to be truly interested and investing in fixing the drug crisis. They talk about how drugs and drug use has changed/not changed over the years. They take a break and talk to Fox News Radio’s Jon Decker. They discuss the government shutdown deadline looming. Ray asks Jon if he has run into Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Jon cracks a joke and they talk about the Democrat’s socialists view as a party.
Part 4:  Ray is excited about Gordon Smith’s plans and what possibilities of change could happen. Peter and Joe talk about the fact that there is no department and so this is uncharted territory. Joe talks about the different reasons that people are doing drugs. Ray talks about the nuclear family’s role.